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EUROCUP: LAST 32
Messaggioda ALEXEEV » 15/01/2014 - 17:12
Come fatto notare da Segrino,apro il topic sulla last 32 e riporto il suo post
2° giornata della 2° fase a gironi, non apro un altro thread: Union Olympia +7,5 e Nanterre +5,5, pensavo un paio di punti in meno entrambi
Io invece ho preso il Besiktas in casa,c'e' 1.88 da Pinna ,stamane ho preso qualcosina a 1.92 da Goldbet,mi sembra da provare praticamente a scelta.
2° giornata della 2° fase a gironi, non apro un altro thread: Union Olympia +7,5 e Nanterre +5,5, pensavo un paio di punti in meno entrambi
Io invece ho preso il Besiktas in casa,c'e' 1.88 da Pinna ,stamane ho preso qualcosina a 1.92 da Goldbet,mi sembra da provare praticamente a scelta.
Proprietà transitorie non ne vedo, se non nella testa dei geni che le ipotizzano.
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Re: EUROCUP: LAST 32
Messaggioda CapitanSimon » 19/02/2014 - 14:19
Ultimo turno di Eurocup. Situazione dei gironi:
http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/eurocu ... re-round-6
GROUP I
JSF Nanterre:
- is first if it wins at home against Izmir.
- is second if it loses by up to 5 points and Ulm beats Cantu.
- is third and eliminated if it loses by more than 5 points and Ulm beats Cantu.
- if it loses and Cantu beats Ulm, there is a four-way tie in which the global point difference acts as tie-breaker. Nanterre would need Ulm to lose by 12 points more than its own loss in order to advance.
Ratiopharm Ulm:
- is first if it wins against Cantu and Izmir beats Nanterre.
- is second if it wins and Nanterre beats Izmir OR if it loses by up to 8 points and Nanterre beats Izmir.
- is third and eliminated if it loses by more than 8 points and Nanterre beats Izmir.
- If it loses and Izmir beats Cantu, a four-way tie occurs in which the global point difference acts as tie-breaker. Ulm (+12 - losing margin) could never be first, but would be in a much better situation than Izmir (-28 + winning margin) and Nanterre (-2 - losing margin) in deciding second place.
FoxTown Cantu:
- is second if it wins by at least 9 points against Ulm and Nanterre beats Izmir.
- is eliminated if it loses OR if it wins by less than 9 points and Nanterre beats Izmir.
- it qualifies no matter what if it wins and Izmir beats Nanterre. In a four-way tie at 3-3, Cantu (+18 + winning margin) has greater chances to finish first. Only Izmir (-28 + winning margin) could take first place from Cantu, but to do so needs to win by 47 more points more than Cantu's winning margin.
Pinar Karsiyaka Izmir:
- is second if it wins against Nanterre by at least 6 points and Ulm beats Cantu.
- is eliminated if it loses OR it is wins by less than 6 points and Ulm beats Cantu.
- A four-way tie takes place if it wins and Cantu beats Ulm. Izmir (-28 + winning margin) would have to go past Nanterre (-2 - losing margin) and Ulm (12 - losing margin) in order to advance. If Izmir wins by 13 points or less, it has no chance to advance.
GROUP J
Aykon TED Ankara Kolejliler:
- has already clinched first place prior to its road game at Gravelines.
Brose Baskets Bamberg:
- is second if it wins against Sassari OR if it loses by up to 11 points.
- is eliminated if it loses by 12 points or more.
Dinamo Banco di Sardegna Sassari:
- is second if it wins against Bamberg by at least 12 points.
- is eliminated in any other case.
BCM Gravelines Dunkerque:
- is already eliminated entering its home game against Ankara.
GROUP K
Khimki Moscow Region:
- has already clinched first place prior to its road game against Haifa.
CEZ Basketball Nymburk:
- is second if it wins against Siena OR if loses by up to 8 points and Khimki beats Haifa.
- is eliminated if it loses and Haifa beats Khimki OR if it loses by 9 points or more and Khimki beats Haifa.
Maccabi Haifa Bazan:
- is second if it beats Khimki and Siena beats Nymburk.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
Montepaschi Siena:
- is second if it wins by at least 9 points and Khimki beats Haifa.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
NYM 2-2 +13-x
HAI 2-2 -9
SIE 2-2 -4+x
GROUP L:
Crvena Zvezda Telekom Belgrade:
- is already qualified and finishes first if it wins at home against Novgorod.
- is second if it loses.
Nizhny Novgorod:
- is already qualified and finishes first if it wins at Zvezda.
- is second if it loses.
Bilbao Basket:
- is already eliminated entering its road game against Panionios.
Panionios Athens:
- is already eliminated entering its home game against Bilbao.
GROUP M
Hapoel Migdal Jerusalem:
- has already clinched first place prior to its road game against Banvit.
Budivelnik Kiev:
- is second if it wins against Olimpija OR if Hapoel beats Banvit.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
Banvit Bandirma:
- is second if it wins against Hapoel and Olimpija beats Budivelnik.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
Union Olimpija Ljubljana:
- is already eliminated entering its home game against Budivelnik.
GROUP N
Alba Berlin:
- has already clinched first place prior to its home game against Radnicki.
Radnicki Kragujevac:
- is second if it wins against Alba.
- is eliminated if it loses.
Strasbourg:
- is second if it wins against Khimik and Alba beats Radnicki.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
Khimik Yuzhne:
- is second if it wins against Strasbourg and Alba beats Radnicki.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
GROUP O
Unics Kazan:
- is first if it wins against Valencia or if it loses by less than 7 points.
- is second if it loses by 7 points or more.
Valencia Basket:
- is first if it wins against Unics by 7 points or more.
- is second in any other scenario.
Telenet Ostend:
- is already eliminated entering its road game against Zielona Gora.
Stelmet Zielona Gora:
- is already eliminated entering its home game against Ostend.
GROUP P
Lietuvos Rytas Vilnius:
- is first if it wins at home against Cedevita Zagreb.
- is eliminated if it loses.
Besiktas Integral Forex Istanbul:
- is first if it wins on the road against Zaragoza and Cedevita beats Rytas.
- is second if it loses up to 6 points and Rytas beats Cedevita.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
Cedevita Zagreb:
- is second if it beats Rytas and Besiktas beats Zaragoza.
- qualifies if it beats Rytas and Zaragoza beats Besiktas. Global points difference (Cedevita +5 + winning margin; Zaragoza +10 + winning margin) determines if Cedevita is first or second.
- is eliminated if it loses.
CAI Zaragoza:
- is second if it beats Besiktas by at least 7 points and Rytas beats Cedevita.
- qualifies if it beats Besiktas and Cedevita beats Rytas. Global points difference (Cedevita +5 + winning margin; Zaragoza +10 + winning margin) determines if Cedevita is first or second.
- is eliminated if it loses OR if it wins by less than 7 points and Rytas beats Cedevita.
http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/eurocu ... re-round-6
GROUP I
JSF Nanterre:
- is first if it wins at home against Izmir.
- is second if it loses by up to 5 points and Ulm beats Cantu.
- is third and eliminated if it loses by more than 5 points and Ulm beats Cantu.
- if it loses and Cantu beats Ulm, there is a four-way tie in which the global point difference acts as tie-breaker. Nanterre would need Ulm to lose by 12 points more than its own loss in order to advance.
Ratiopharm Ulm:
- is first if it wins against Cantu and Izmir beats Nanterre.
- is second if it wins and Nanterre beats Izmir OR if it loses by up to 8 points and Nanterre beats Izmir.
- is third and eliminated if it loses by more than 8 points and Nanterre beats Izmir.
- If it loses and Izmir beats Cantu, a four-way tie occurs in which the global point difference acts as tie-breaker. Ulm (+12 - losing margin) could never be first, but would be in a much better situation than Izmir (-28 + winning margin) and Nanterre (-2 - losing margin) in deciding second place.
FoxTown Cantu:
- is second if it wins by at least 9 points against Ulm and Nanterre beats Izmir.
- is eliminated if it loses OR if it wins by less than 9 points and Nanterre beats Izmir.
- it qualifies no matter what if it wins and Izmir beats Nanterre. In a four-way tie at 3-3, Cantu (+18 + winning margin) has greater chances to finish first. Only Izmir (-28 + winning margin) could take first place from Cantu, but to do so needs to win by 47 more points more than Cantu's winning margin.
Pinar Karsiyaka Izmir:
- is second if it wins against Nanterre by at least 6 points and Ulm beats Cantu.
- is eliminated if it loses OR it is wins by less than 6 points and Ulm beats Cantu.
- A four-way tie takes place if it wins and Cantu beats Ulm. Izmir (-28 + winning margin) would have to go past Nanterre (-2 - losing margin) and Ulm (12 - losing margin) in order to advance. If Izmir wins by 13 points or less, it has no chance to advance.
GROUP J
Aykon TED Ankara Kolejliler:
- has already clinched first place prior to its road game at Gravelines.
Brose Baskets Bamberg:
- is second if it wins against Sassari OR if it loses by up to 11 points.
- is eliminated if it loses by 12 points or more.
Dinamo Banco di Sardegna Sassari:
- is second if it wins against Bamberg by at least 12 points.
- is eliminated in any other case.
BCM Gravelines Dunkerque:
- is already eliminated entering its home game against Ankara.
GROUP K
Khimki Moscow Region:
- has already clinched first place prior to its road game against Haifa.
CEZ Basketball Nymburk:
- is second if it wins against Siena OR if loses by up to 8 points and Khimki beats Haifa.
- is eliminated if it loses and Haifa beats Khimki OR if it loses by 9 points or more and Khimki beats Haifa.
Maccabi Haifa Bazan:
- is second if it beats Khimki and Siena beats Nymburk.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
Montepaschi Siena:
- is second if it wins by at least 9 points and Khimki beats Haifa.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
NYM 2-2 +13-x
HAI 2-2 -9
SIE 2-2 -4+x
GROUP L:
Crvena Zvezda Telekom Belgrade:
- is already qualified and finishes first if it wins at home against Novgorod.
- is second if it loses.
Nizhny Novgorod:
- is already qualified and finishes first if it wins at Zvezda.
- is second if it loses.
Bilbao Basket:
- is already eliminated entering its road game against Panionios.
Panionios Athens:
- is already eliminated entering its home game against Bilbao.
GROUP M
Hapoel Migdal Jerusalem:
- has already clinched first place prior to its road game against Banvit.
Budivelnik Kiev:
- is second if it wins against Olimpija OR if Hapoel beats Banvit.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
Banvit Bandirma:
- is second if it wins against Hapoel and Olimpija beats Budivelnik.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
Union Olimpija Ljubljana:
- is already eliminated entering its home game against Budivelnik.
GROUP N
Alba Berlin:
- has already clinched first place prior to its home game against Radnicki.
Radnicki Kragujevac:
- is second if it wins against Alba.
- is eliminated if it loses.
Strasbourg:
- is second if it wins against Khimik and Alba beats Radnicki.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
Khimik Yuzhne:
- is second if it wins against Strasbourg and Alba beats Radnicki.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
GROUP O
Unics Kazan:
- is first if it wins against Valencia or if it loses by less than 7 points.
- is second if it loses by 7 points or more.
Valencia Basket:
- is first if it wins against Unics by 7 points or more.
- is second in any other scenario.
Telenet Ostend:
- is already eliminated entering its road game against Zielona Gora.
Stelmet Zielona Gora:
- is already eliminated entering its home game against Ostend.
GROUP P
Lietuvos Rytas Vilnius:
- is first if it wins at home against Cedevita Zagreb.
- is eliminated if it loses.
Besiktas Integral Forex Istanbul:
- is first if it wins on the road against Zaragoza and Cedevita beats Rytas.
- is second if it loses up to 6 points and Rytas beats Cedevita.
- is eliminated in any other scenario.
Cedevita Zagreb:
- is second if it beats Rytas and Besiktas beats Zaragoza.
- qualifies if it beats Rytas and Zaragoza beats Besiktas. Global points difference (Cedevita +5 + winning margin; Zaragoza +10 + winning margin) determines if Cedevita is first or second.
- is eliminated if it loses.
CAI Zaragoza:
- is second if it beats Besiktas by at least 7 points and Rytas beats Cedevita.
- qualifies if it beats Besiktas and Cedevita beats Rytas. Global points difference (Cedevita +5 + winning margin; Zaragoza +10 + winning margin) determines if Cedevita is first or second.
- is eliminated if it loses OR if it wins by less than 7 points and Rytas beats Cedevita.
Re: EUROCUP: LAST 32
Messaggioda segrino » 19/02/2014 - 18:24
Maccabi Haifa +5,5 e Sassari -4,5: la prima si gioca in casa la qualificazione con il forte Khimky però già qualificato; penso che la partita dei sardi si giocherà sulla differenza canestri dell'andata, +11 da ribaltare.
Aggiungo, con minor fiducia Nanterre -4,5: Pinar potrebbe già sapere di essere fuori alla fine del primo quarto e in trasferta non sono fortissimi.
Sono comunque dei fenomeni a far giocare le partite in orari diversi, da monitorare l'handicap del Nymburg qualora il Maccabi Haifa vincesse, Siena giocherebbe senza la motivazione del passaggio del turno
Aggiungo, con minor fiducia Nanterre -4,5: Pinar potrebbe già sapere di essere fuori alla fine del primo quarto e in trasferta non sono fortissimi.
Sono comunque dei fenomeni a far giocare le partite in orari diversi, da monitorare l'handicap del Nymburg qualora il Maccabi Haifa vincesse, Siena giocherebbe senza la motivazione del passaggio del turno
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